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load range E or the stock P metric on a half ton, and what i should run this winter

RO-1068Opened by mod_chris_mAug 20, 2025in Towing, engines and service7 posts
mod_chris_mOP Moderator #1
Lincoln, NE52 posts · joined Aug 20252017 Silverado 1500 LT 5.3, double cab

asking as a member and not as a mod, and i would rather be told i am wrong here than find out in a ditch on highway 77.

2017 Silverado 1500 LT double cab, 5.3, 141,000 miles, GVWR 7,000 on the door. it came on 265/65R18 Goodyear Wrangler Fortitude HT and they are down to 5 32nds, so they are done before winter. what the truck does: hauls a 16 foot utility trailer with a Kubota BX on it out to my brother's place most weekends, maybe 5,800 lbs of trailer and tractor, plus firewood in the fall and a pallet of salt or two in january. nebraska winter, so a couple of weeks a year of real ice and about five months of cold.

took it to a shop here in Lincoln and the kid at the counter had me sold on load range E 275/70R18 in about ninety seconds. ten ply, he said. you tow, he said. the price was 1,580 plus mounting and he had them in stock, which i noticed was part of the pitch.

i walked out to think about it, which is what my dad would have done. do i need E tires on a half ton, or is the kid moving what is on the shelf, and what should somebody towing 5,800 lbs actually be looking at on the sidewall.

ford_tech_wendell High mileage #2
Toledo, OH64 posts · joined Aug 20252019 F-150 XLT 2.7 EcoBoost, 6.5 box

he is moving what is on the shelf, and E tires are also not wrong, and both of those can be true at once. here is how to decide it with arithmetic instead of a counter pitch.

your stock tire is a P metric. a P metric tire fitted to a light truck does not get to use its full rated load, you divide the number on the sidewall by 1.10. that factor exists because trucks carry load differently than cars do. so a P metric with 2,601 lbs on the sidewall is good for about 2,365 on your truck, times two on the rear axle, which is 4,730, and your rear axle rating is somewhere around 3,900 to 4,100. the stock tire already has more capacity than the axle it is bolted to. a GM engineer picked that size for a 7,000 lb truck with a hitch on it, and your trailer tongue is maybe 650 lbs of that.

what an LT E tire buys you: more sidewall capacity you are not using, a tougher carcass that resists a sharp rock or a curb cut, and more weight. an E in your size is roughly 10 to 12 lbs heavier per corner, which is unsprung weight and you feel every ounce of it in the steering and in what the truck does over a frost heave. empty, an E range tire at the pressure it needs rides like a hay wagon. people who go to E and come back always say the same thing, it was fine loaded and miserable the other six days.

in between there is load range C, and there are XL or Reinforced P metrics, which get you a stiffer sidewall without the full ten ply penalty. for a half ton that tows a tractor on weekends, that is usually the honest answer.

and the thing that actually matters in Nebraska in january is none of this. it is whether the tire has the three peak mountain snowflake on it. an all terrain with the snowflake will do more for you on glare ice than four load ranges will.

ram_hemi_guy Daily driver #3
Baton Rouge, LA19 posts · joined Aug 20252020 Ram 1500 Big Horn 5.7 eTorque, crew cab

i did the thing wendell is describing and i am the cautionary tale, so here it is for free.

put a set of E range all terrains on the Ram three years ago because i pull a 5,200 lb boat and i had read enough internet to be dangerous. loaded, they were excellent, the truck felt planted and the sidewalls did not squirm backing the trailer down a ramp. the other 95 percent of my driving they were loud, they tramlined in the ruts on I-10, and my wife asked within a week what i had done to her truck.

mileage went from 18 and change to a little over 17. that is about 300 dollars a year of gas for a sidewall i was using eleven days a year.

went back to a reinforced P metric when they wore out and the boat has not noticed. it is the same hitch, the same tongue weight and the same ramp.

fleet_manager_rob Tow rated #4
Bakersfield, CA31 posts · joined Aug 20252022 Silverado 1500 LT and a 2021 F-150 XL, fleet

i buy about 140 tires a year, so i will give you the money side, which is the part the counter will never explain.

we split the fleet. trucks that work on dirt sites and job roads get load range E, no argument, because the failure out there is not a blowout from overload, it is a sidewall cut from a rock or a piece of rebar, and an E carcass survives things that fold a P metric. trucks that run pavement and a trailer on weekends get SL or a reinforced P metric.

the cost: an E set in a common half ton size runs us about 1,240 and a comparable SL set about 920. the E tires last longer in rotation, maybe 15 percent, so on a per mile basis it is closer than it looks. then you give back half a mpg to a mpg, which on a truck that runs 30,000 miles a year is 350 to 400 dollars of fuel, and the E set stops being cheaper.

your truck is a pavement truck that pulls a tractor on a trailer. you are the SL or reinforced case, and you should put the 600 dollars you did not spend toward a tire with the snowflake on it and a real tread depth instead.

one more thing. whatever you buy, write the pressure on a piece of tape in the glovebox for loaded and empty, because the number on your door jamb is for the tire that came on it and if you change type that number changes with it.

mod_chris_mOP Moderator #5
Lincoln, NE52 posts · joined Aug 20252017 Silverado 1500 LT 5.3, double cab

bought tires. Goodyear Wrangler DuraTrac in 275/65R18, standard load, with the three peak snowflake, 1,048 out the door at a different shop on 48th, mounted, balanced and the old ones hauled off.

what i did before i paid, since this is the part twenty two years of parts counter made me do. i read the load index and the load range off the sidewall spec on goodyear.com and did wendell's division on it, then compared it against the rear axle rating on my own door jamb. the standard load tire clears my axle with room left over, and i would not have believed that two weeks ago.

the shop on 48th also said something the first place did not. he asked what i tow and how often, and when i told him, he said he would not sell me E tires for that and that if i were hauling pipe on gravel every day he would. that is a man i will go back to.

one thing i did not expect to pay for. the TPMS sensors in a 2017 are eight years old and two of them would not relearn. 68 dollars for the pair installed while the wheels were off, which is the right time to do it and would have been a separate trip and another 40 dollars of labor in february.

i will report back after a few thousand miles and after the first real ice.

deer_season_truck Daily driver #6
Altoona, PA13 posts · joined Aug 20252014 F-150 XLT 5.0 SuperCrew, 6.5 box

different answer from the mountains, for whoever reads this and lives where the roads are not flat.

i run two sets. all terrains with the snowflake from november to april on a second set of steel wheels i paid 240 dollars for at a salvage yard, and the highway tires the rest of the year. the swap costs me an hour in the driveway twice a year and no mounting money, and both sets last about twice as long because each one only sees half the miles.

the reason it is worth it here and maybe not in Lincoln: the road up to our camp is a dirt switchback with a creek crossing, and the difference between a dedicated winter tread and a good all season on a frozen rut at 7 in the morning is the difference between going and not going. on a flat highway with salt trucks running, a good all terrain is plenty.

and on load range, i run SL and have pulled that 4,800 lb trailer up and over the mountain for eleven years with no drama. the tire was never my problem. my problem was the 240 lbs of gear over GVWR that i found out about in the payload thread.

mod_chris_mOP Moderator #7
Lincoln, NE52 posts · joined Aug 20252017 Silverado 1500 LT 5.3, double cab

2,300 miles on them now, including four trips out to my brother's with the tractor and one with a cord of oak in the bed.

mpg went from 18.4 on the highway tires to 17.6 on the same loop, hand figured over four tanks. that is 0.8 and it is the price of a tread that will actually bite. noise is more than the HTs and less than i was braced for, a hum at 55 that goes away in your head after a week.

loaded they are better than the old tires were, and i expected no difference. the trailer used to make the back end feel vague coming off the gravel onto 77 and it does not do that now, which i think is tread depth and a fresh sidewall rather than anything about load range.

and the cold morning thing is already happening. 34 degrees last tuesday and the pressure light came on at 31 psi, which is the tires doing exactly what physics says and not a problem. about a pound for every ten degrees. i set them at 38 cold in the driveway and the light went out and will come back on the first morning it is 10 degrees, same as every truck i have ever owned. do not chase it with the compressor every week, set them once when it is actually cold and leave them alone.

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